Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits Him Again!

I was not a big advocate of the attacks on Reverend Wright, but like Senator Obama's admission today, I did see it as a valid political discussion. I was impressed the day after the original story broke when Obama crafted, or rather, delivered an inspirational speech to denounce and claim ignorance of Reverend Wrights comments in the now famous sermon at his church.

I was caught up in the questions, and followed in the belief that it would be impossible to divorce Senator Obama from Reverend Wright. I didn't believe that Obama could be 100% clear of the commentary as this preacher brought him to Christianity, married him, and baptised his children. To claim ignorance of his brand of preaching and the content therein seemed highly unlikely to me.

Further, I found myself as I tried to decide on a candidate to wonder about Obama's real intentions, and what we really know of his inner beliefs? I questioned how someone so great could be associated with some so low? How could the great politician be associated with a man who says from the pulpit: "God Damn America"? How could this great lawyer have kept company, no matter how briefly, with the likes of Bill Ayers? And why didn't we know about this forever ago? This seems to have been a non-story, but it got legs after the comments of Wright.

Personally, I combined these issues with Obama's poor handling of Donny McClurkin, what I see as a broken record speech tour, and a growing distrust of him in my gut, and the choice to vote for Hillary was easy for me. I found her to be straight with her solutions and plans, and him to be woefully inarticulate with details and rather full of himself on empty message. Something in my gut told me he wasn't giving me the whole picture, and it completely prevented me from buying into his message. And I wanted to be swept up in it, but my rhetorical soul wouldn't allow it. So I proudly voted for Hillary, and was glad that PA was finally over.

With my vote, questions of Obama electability seemed to be surfacing with increasing frequency. Questions of if he could beat McCain in the fall started to be lobbed and they weren't being returned by the Obamabots with the ferocity they once were.

Then today, and as recently as yesterday, the Reverend Wright drug Barack back into the mud.
It seems Senator Obama's "spiritual leader" has designs of his own. It seems he has a book to sell, and is willing to not only show Barack the back of the bus, but to push him out of it as it cruises down the highway. I am not sure what to make of this?! It seems to me that Obama must denounce Wright, and vigorously work to remove himself from the growing shadow of this preacher and his ax. And in my heart, I see such an action as enough to absolve Obama from this zealot. But I know in my mind that such actions will not be enough to make the questions go away. I know that many a supporter on the fence is wondering if this is a wound that will crush Obama's chances?

I didn't think that McCain could beat either of them come November.

Now I am not so sure?

The faith in politics debate is one the GOP plays like a fiddle. This is not a discussion that if Obama tries to control it will set well with most Democrats. Already McCain and the GOP are taking aim at Obama with this angle, and with no end in site from Reverend Wright, they will get lots of traction from the discussion, debate, denouncement, and divide that will surely grow as this evolves.

So the question really becomes:

"Is Barack Obama electable against John McCain in November?"

Do the superdelegates believe that he can beat McCain with this issue out there and growing further out of control with each passing day?

This is no other than a practical question of potential. If Obama isn't able to beat Hillary resoundingly, will he be able to knock out Flip-flop McCain? I still think he can, but he has to react the right way to this problem. Otherwise he is doomed, and with him so are we.

Obama has yet to prove himself strong in response to the heat of the moment. He is great when he has a day to craft a speech and a response, but as President, or even as a contender in debates in October, he won't have the luxury of time to decide how best to respond. The debate in PA is just a taste of what he will be up against when the entirety of the GOP hate machine is focused on him. Can he overcome it? Can he win?

Is it time that he answers the calls to step aside and allow the other electable Democrat to take on McCain? Is it time for him to consider the VP path to the White House? I am still a fan of the Dream Ticket, even though all pundits tell me its nothing more than a fantasy.

Indiana, West Virgina, Oregon, Guam, Puerto Rico, Montana, North Carolina, and Kentucky...This is up to you! It is time you started paying attention and started thinking in terms of who can beat McCain? Drop the race card. Drop the gender card. Stop playing into the GOP games of division, they are still both excellent candidates with serious handicaps each. The difference is that Hillary has already been deconstructed by the GOP and many of you, and she still stands strong and firm as a solid candidate. Obama is still being dissected, and one of his closest adviser's is holding the knife!

So ask yourself, when October comes who will beat McCain? As Obama tumbles on the pavement, shoved from the bus by his own Pastor, ask yourself if you think he can win? I have already voted in PA. Undecided states, this is now up to you.

Don't just hope for change, Vote for it!

Hillary 2008!

Give: www.hillaryclinton.com


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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

I don't agree.

That is only a bonus to the EXPERIENCE card!


Pride & Prejudice...The American Way!
by FISG on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:25:25 AM EST

Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Yeah, but McCains experience card is tragically tarnished by his Flip-flop card!


Pride & Prejudice...The American Way!
by FISG on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:34:41 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

You forgot that my candidate pays attention to the interests of women and children, and is active on their behalf.  That constituency matters to me.  Populist sentiments, quite frankly, are not the province of just HRC, just in case you haven't been keeping up.


by TinaH1963 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:23:40 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Enough for a level up?


"I'll bite your legs off!" -- HRC 2008!
by username3 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:42:07 AM EST
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I don't think so (2.00 / 0)

In fact I think that the Wright issue will mostly be political cover for people who didn't want to vote for Obama to justify what they already weren't going to do anyhow.


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:27:56 AM EST

Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (1.75 / 4)

While we're listening to the eighth diary of the day on this subject, do you know how many Americans died in Iraq yesterday? How about how bloody the month of April has become comparatively?

No? Well, at least you have your priorities straight.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:29:23 AM EST

Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

Thank you Rage for some much needed perspective and sanity to the day!!  I'd mojo you but I am powerless and feel I might be the next Cardboard


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:31:43 AM EST
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How many Americans died in Iraq yesterday? (none / 0)

Did I read that four Americans were killed yesterday?
I sure didn't hear it reported on TV or radio.

Jim Lehrer's news report and, believe it or not, even Nancy Grace would post photos, age, and hometown  at the end of their programs.  I used to try to  catch those details but they usually sped by a little to quickly to take it all in.
 I haven't seen it lately, but maybe I haven't been watching enough.


by susie on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:56:17 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know a Palestinian woman and her four children were killed by the IDF yesterday.  These are important issues, but this is the primary season, and ignoring a political hot potato probably isn't wise.  Clearly, BHO shouldn't be held responsible for what Rev. Wright is saying, but the undecided voter may very well decide that this is a relevant issue.  BHO needs to respond, in my humble opinion.


by TinaH1963 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:29:05 AM EST
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Red Herring (none / 0)

Sad that some people died somewhere in the Palestinian territories yesterday; but what does that have to do with this primary?  I'll answer that for you: nothing.  It's one thing to say that we should be thinking about Iraq: agreed, we should.  But any random act of murderous stupidity on earth: No.  Not important here.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:45:52 AM EST
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Sorry Tina...I misread part of your comment (none / 0)

Sorry for jumping all over your case.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:47:19 AM EST
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Re: Sorry Tina...I misread part of your comment (none / 0)

No offense taken.


by TinaH1963 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:38:33 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

As long as it's less than the number of enraged diaries...


"I'll bite your legs off!" -- HRC 2008!
by username3 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:42:59 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

That's right the media loves junk food and as four more of our troops have just died I think it's time to get serious. Vote Obama


by Politicalslave on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 05:54:38 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

Nonsense.

You're trying to change the subject because the dominant narrative today and for the remainder of this contest will be how Barack Obama's never-ending fountain of controversy renders him politically radioactive.  

We all oppose the war here.  Many of us also happen to oppose the vague and empty promises of Barack Obama.  It's our prerogative to discuss his fatal flaws and no one needs your guidance on how we should prioritize current issues.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:20:14 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Oh, yeah? Get back on your high horse and ride the hell out of here.

I think a couple diaries on this subject could be valid; a few, I could probably live with. EIGHT?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:54:13 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Good point!

Why would anyone want to talk about the week's most prominent poitical story on a political discussion webste?  It makes no sense!

Seriously, we should be talking about high horses and such.  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:40:29 PM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

OMG I am listening to Wright talking on the news...

OMG OMG OMG

Its like he is all out for Hillary...

He is hurting Obama big time...

Obama must be hating it or he really is trying to throw the election so he can get VP and a better run at it next time.

Great day to be a HRC supporter


by DTaylor on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:38:15 AM EST

Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

See... this is no good, and why a lot of people have been uncomfortable with Hillary Clinton's candidacy since late February.  She can't catch up, so the only way she can win is if Barack Obama becomes unelectable.

I deeply admire the Hillary supporters who are able to maintain enough distance to support their candidate without wishing the other candidate to get mired in bullshit, but I recognize it's hard.  For most people, to support Hillary you have to hate Obama.  He's in the way, and she can't be President if he's still standing.  She can't catch up through the normal process.


by Mostly on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:36:04 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

The normal process??

Is this your first cycle being political?

Hillary has played VERY soft with Obama.  

Obama has rezko, ayers, wright, michelle, and two books where he admits being a racist and a drug user in his youth.  

Obama can't win a GE.  Rezko, Ayers or Wright and maybe even Michelle would cost him the election on their own.  But the kicker is that he has no resume.

By no resume I won't mean he has never had a full time job.  What I mean is no other presidential frontrunner in my life time has had as little expereience as Obama.

So very little experience AND a bag full of scandal...

Its like he is juggling kitchen sinks and when he drops one on his head he blames Hillary for throwing it.....


by DTaylor on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:42:15 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (2.00 / 1)

The normal process meaning who ever wins, wins, and the superdelegates don't play a roll.  It would require something extraordinary for them to step in, and that's been Hillary Clinton's hope all along.  Her only hope.

Hillary Clinton has problems of her own; she has no equivalent to Reverend Wright, but John McCain does.  And really, Rezko and Ayers are nothing - she's got Norman Hsu, Peter Paul, the Weather Underground and FALN pardons, Abdul Remmah Jimmah, Marc Rich... it goes on and on and on.  She hasn't had to answer for any of it.


by Mostly on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 02:51:17 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Thats because Hillary is running on a resume that includes being Butch Cassidy to Bill's Sundance kid for 12 years of Arkansas Governor and 8 years in the white house.

8 of the best years the US has seen in 100 years.

She has 8 years in the Senate and even the GOP has admitted she has been very effective there.

And the GOP has already used every shell that they would fire at Hillary and they all bounced off...

She is so covered in mud that no new mud will change anything.


by DTaylor on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:04:19 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Really?  Show me where any of those have emerged this election cycle.  These are all post-2000 scandals.


by Mostly on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:14:36 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, (none / 0)

*mostly post-2000.  Ayers gave her WU and FALN links more legs.


by Mostly on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:15:17 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, (none / 0)

Nothing will stick to Hillary.

There is literally NOTHING the clintons will be accused of that is new.


by DTaylor on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:38:46 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

role


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:21:20 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

What are you talking about?

The superdelegates vote every time.  And it's getting to the point where Hillary won't need too many of them to win.

All of this radioactive controversy will be swept under the rug by seating MI/FL at full value.  "We decided to count all the votes and Obama lost."  That's all it will take.


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:25:33 AM EST
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She can't catch up? (none / 0)

"Catching up" isn't really what this is about. It is about fighting a tough campaign to the end.  Showing who has what it takes to prevail when the outcome is uncertain, and no matter what Obama supporters say, the outcome is still indeed uncertain.  Neither candidate will have enough delegates to win the nomination without superdelegates.  That fact is enough to give legitimacy to Clinton continuing this race.  

Obama had a chance to grow stronger, more astute, more battle hardened - but he has failed in that.  I really do believe he is bored, expecting to have the nomination handed to him without working very hard.  And now the tenacious, street fighting Hillary Clinton is to blame?  Please.  This guy was a confection from the start, and he only has himself to blame for his inadequacies as a candidate.


by Sabrina Duncan on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 12:39:37 PM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

OMG Write totally PWNS!!!

Oh, wait.  He's Obama's pastor!

But, but...

head explodes


"I'll bite your legs off!" -- HRC 2008!
by username3 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 03:44:30 AM EST
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Re: Obama Thrown From Bus, Wright Backs-up, Hits H (none / 0)

Yes I'm sure it gets some hopes up. But next week will show how this isn't an issue at all.


by Politicalslave on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 05:56:37 AM EST
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Obama is not in second place (none / 0)

Let's be clear. This is still Hillary's race to WIN, not Obama's to LOSE. He already (for all intents and purposes) will come out with more pledged delegates, which was supposed to be the primary benchmark. He is also still poised at this point to come out ahead in the popular vote (when leaving out Hillary's absurd 50% lead in Michigan).

Hillary better depend on a lot more than just hoping Obama does poorly, she still has to work her ass off.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 06:59:02 AM EST

re: (none / 0)

Have you noticed that this morning the coverage of Wright has shifted to the MSM actually suggesting that Wright is trying to sabotage Obama's campaign--Russert on Thge Today Show this morning. Thus again making Obama look sympathetic as the victim of a sandbagging.


by handsomegent on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 08:25:32 AM EST

Re: re: (none / 0)

No.  People don't feel sorry for Obama anymore.  The Wright controversy just makes it look like an Obama nomination will mean high profile racial bickering for the rest of the year.  Obama's candidacy in the primary alone has polarized the electorate along racial lines.  The sooner he steps aside and stops expanding the divide, the better.


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:28:04 AM EST
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